Wow that would be really great how we all wish we had a school like that in our time.
Amazing how games has gone from personal to social and now broken into mainstream to indulge youngsters to just play games, appreciate it and also suggest on how to make it better.
Guys, as i have said before, PLEASE DON'T COMPARE P3 WITH P4. IT'S COMMON SENSE THAT P4 WILL BE BETTER SINCE IT IS THE IMPROVED VERSION OF P3. so rather than comparing them, please just review on P3 not any other game. this section is meant for P3.
...you gotta let it slide sometimes. Steam sales, GOG discounts, humble bundles, clearance deals...the deck is stacked against us these days. My new rule is 30 minutes and I stop if it doesn't seem like my bag. I probably miss out on a lot of "landmark" epics and idiosyncratic indies, but even I ain't got all day.
That's what your punch to my face feels like. I clicked on this story ready to scoff at your puny backlog. (mine is ridiculous)
But instead, I walk away in shame, bleached by the holy light of your gaming achievements this year. My hat is off to you. I hope someday I can conquer so much gaming territory in a single year. Well done.
And Persona 4 Golden exceeds all of the Persona games before it, especially Persona 3 and its sequels which were thought to be the best out of the entire series. I knew I wasn't going to enjoy playing as Persona 3's MC, but still dying to play the game I picked up Persona 3 Portable instead, dying to play someone my own gender for once. Despite how things tended to get tedious and I disliked the majority of my social links, I loved the game. (--SPOILER--) Sadly, the majority of the love that I had for P3P was crushed after I accidently stumbled upon a spoiler saying that at the end of the game your character dies. Unwilling to see all the hours I invested into the game go to waste, I popped the game out and sat it in it's case.
About a month or so later I came across Persona 3 FES(For Everyone's Souls). Interested, I started to dig around for more information. I read a review, (I was in Jan. In P3P and pretty much knew what was going to go down so why not?),hoping maybe that you could change the MC's fate, or maybe that a for satisfying ending was in store. What I found was even worse than the original game. Not only did the MC still die, but the game warped the plot into pretty this: the characters could not sufficiently cope with your death. Apparentlly everyone has different ideas on what they should do, such as Mitsuru and Yukari want to return to the past before they met the MC, Junpei and Koromaru want to move on naturally,ect; and Aigis pretty much is willing to do anything to bring you back, and with the introduction of a new character who just happens to be Aigis' sister, Metis, actually tries to do so. This and that happens and before you know it, Aigis and Metis are at everyone's throats in an attempt to make Aigis' hope to bring MC back a reality. Once everyone is bloody and battered the plot moves on and everyone discovers why your character was supposed to die, The ending is something like everyone learns to cope with your death and everyone moves on and lives a happy life. This sequel sounded disappointing to say in the least. It's pretty much a huge middle finger to the player. Though an overall good game the ending was what ruined the experience for me. The game was depressing enough, did we need .a sad ending too?
Anyway, after all the bitchslaps Persona 3 gave me I was extremely hesitant about giving Persona 4 a whirl. I decided not to play and start playing something else when I caught wind of Persona 4 Golden. P4G looked amazing by the trailers so I mustered up the cash and bought a PSVita and the game, drunk by the intoxicating charm it was giving off. Honestly, the main reason I bought it was because it looked much happier than the games before it. I'm currently playing the game and I have to say I'm in love with it. The battle system is improved, the art is a huge improvement, the music is amazing, the bosses are much more creative, I have yet to meet as social link I dislike and the new events and story kicks the previousesn the series before its ass!!
Persona3 was a very inique game. If you are a linear player(ffXIII) then it is not for you. The combat system is a great mix of old and new. It adds a few tweeks but keeps the original turn based idea.Not controlling teammates makes the battles thhat much more interesting and if you take the time to choose a strategy its not soo bad. The personas are amazing, hands down. I find that P3 had a darker and more adult themed gameplay compared to p4.
I actually only enjoyed one thing about p4.....chie. Now i'm sayng all this being a huge rpg fan. Ive played and beaten every ff, most dq, pokemon, legend of dragoon, the mana series, so on and so forth.But one last thing I must say is......if you cant complete a game due to your short attention spand then dont write a review... this game is not slow or boring unless you make it out to be. try simcity..thats slow. and if yo wanna play BAD rpgs try out Beyond the Beyond
Since I've read all your comments, I've decided also to add my own comment. I'll also be taking note of the other ideas explained by other people.
Ok, first things first, peace to you all, It's just fun to debate with everyone haha.
now, guyz, please don't compare P3 with P4, it's obvious that P4 is superior since it is its successor. in other words, P4 is the improved P3. So cut with the comparison ok, it makes me sick. its like brother and sister kissing one another. its hot though haha
Some may really hate P3 simply because of Tartarus which I also hate but it can be pretty rewarding when yo overcome it, this just shows that you are very patient and may as well have the gamer's sprirt haha...and if you don't like to grind, use some cheats so that you can skip the fighting part and just enjoy the social links and storyline, that way you'll like the game. (cheats are available in its psp release)
Also, everyone can get really bored if you just kept grinding your character for about 5 hrs straight. So to avoid boredom, try to rest or do other things for awhile so that your love for the game will refill. I do that when I was just a kid wherein I would grind for many hours afterschool and continue to story on weekends. as we always say, keep it in moderation.
Regarding battle systems, most old and some new games have repetive battle systems. It would be hardwork if the game would switch to turnbase then to cardgame and then to tactics but it wud be fun.
Especially nowadays, the popular games today are all about shooting or killing things with minimal story and value worth (DOTA, COD and some hack and slash).
Now for the story, P3 has one of the best story IF you finish it...proceeding with the story can be quite tiresome since it will take some time to continue but that is how it is, use that time to grind. the story is also deep and very dark, those people who don't like dark things will have a bad time.
all games are not perfect. The best game for ME would be like combining our LIFE's ways in Earth with ADVENTURES mostly found in RPG's. do you agree? maybe not
the game can get pretty rough if you jut kept leveling your characters. Level is not the only one to be observed, try exploring other personas, improving your social links to get powerful personas and being careful in battles(there's always an escape option you know).
Also, the plot of the game is set in our time which most likely prohibits any world roaming and searching, so it's obvious that will stick to the same location. Its not like we can go to Europe then to Asia and then to America just to change scenery. And another thing, this is a GAME, some of its features or story or logic will have some flaws that concerns how i world really works. so limit the comparison of our world nature with the game nature, its pretty much different.
Last but not the least, there are SOME who don't like it but there are MANY, as in MANY who like it. This is not my opinion, in fact, it recieves plenty of awards from RPG of the year to the RPG of the DECADE!!!...see wikepedia for details, and yes its legit.
So even if you don't like it, sorry for you since your views are really different from the views of the MANY GAMERS PLAYING GAMES!..
comments, good or bad will be received with delightness :D haha
Based on your review, all you rant about why you hate persona is because of the way it challenges players. I believe that that's what makes the game more enjoyable. But well, i guess your not in for any challenge.
That's the whole point of playing an RPG to get stronger than how you were at the beginning. Besides, its one of those games that is visually appealing but also makes you conscious of how you spend your day. There's a lot of things you can get accomplished while you're not in tartarus that could help you in tartarus and if you keep up with your s.links you will be able to create pretty good personas. The best way is just to get to the mini boss and grind one whole night, the more you can accomplish in tartarus in one night is potential time to level up your statuses and s. links at night.
I think this game was just a little too much for you
It's well inscribed in japanese culture too, the 4th floor missing is something you'll see in several hotels in japan too.
One of the pronunciations for 4 is indeed "Shi" which is also the pronunciation for the character "death".
SMT games are said amongst the true "RPG and JRPG" fans to be one of the hardest, challenging, and deeply story oriented rpgs out there. Atlus doesn’t play around when it comes to the RPG genre, it’s not for "softy's" who lose interest in the game because it’s too difficult, it’s for the hardcore and you have to respect that. They are plenty of easy, pick up and play, JRPG's out there but Persona 3 is not one of them. That’s why this game has such an underground feel too it, ITS NOT FOR EVERYONE it’s for the patient gamer who doesn't mind getting his ass kicked a couple of times before they win. This is the problems with games today, no challenge.....Everyone wants it easy and if it not easy it sucks. I am from a time when gaming kicked your ass on a daily basis and you got your ass back up because you wanted to win that much more for them doing it. I’m not trying to be an asshole but I am being honest when I say this game is not for chumps and for the truly dedicated who want to experience a truly tough but rewarding experience in their video games. I love the Persona Series for obvious reasons. Great story, characters, pacing, fun battle system, monster collecting and customization, and so on. This game has it all and if memory serves me right this game was the 2007 RPG of the Year. I don’t know Greg it seems your opinion of the game is a little to bias and probably only a handful of people would agree with this silly opinion concocted out of ignorance.
Great information and opinions here,would agree with the others that batman was a real good game but as far as other games listed on here,skyrim is by far the most in depth and is way more involved in almost every aspect than 90% of games available today.
and since when did people only play games for an hour? yes the beginning is slow but are we really reviewing a game based off of one hour of gameplay? there is so much wrong with that concept, I can't even believe people haven't mentioned how ridiculous it is. Play the damn game, get into it, it gets better. finish it and THEN, maybe you can give it a review?
so hilarious how reviews have become about the first hour of gameplay. final fantasy 7's first 5 hours are boring as hell, stuck in midgar, it's when you get out and begin to see the complexities of the characters and stories that it became such a great game and the same goes for star ocean or any other great RPGs for that matter.
I do agree with what you have to say about the first hour, but damn man, play the game!!! HOW CAN YOU REVIEW A GAME AND GIVE IT A SCORE BASED OFF OF 60 MINUTES !!!???? lol this is kind of absurd.
Last I checked. They build the school after the experiment and the Tower showed up. It is not one in the same.
Wow that would be really great how we all wish we had a school like that in our time.
Amazing how games has gone from personal to social and now broken into mainstream to indulge youngsters to just play games, appreciate it and also suggest on how to make it better.
These lists (and descriptions of what you thought) are pretty amazing.
P4 sucks in comparison to P3. Just cause things run a bit smotther doesnt mean the game is any better.
Guys, as i have said before, PLEASE DON'T COMPARE P3 WITH P4. IT'S COMMON SENSE THAT P4 WILL BE BETTER SINCE IT IS THE IMPROVED VERSION OF P3. so rather than comparing them, please just review on P3 not any other game. this section is meant for P3.
Yeah, I was pleased by how good the Basement Collection games were. As a highly reputed video game journalist, flash games are normally beneath me.
...you gotta let it slide sometimes. Steam sales, GOG discounts, humble bundles, clearance deals...the deck is stacked against us these days. My new rule is 30 minutes and I stop if it doesn't seem like my bag. I probably miss out on a lot of "landmark" epics and idiosyncratic indies, but even I ain't got all day.
Let everyone be happy
Thank You for all the Good information.
That's what your punch to my face feels like. I clicked on this story ready to scoff at your puny backlog. (mine is ridiculous)
But instead, I walk away in shame, bleached by the holy light of your gaming achievements this year. My hat is off to you. I hope someday I can conquer so much gaming territory in a single year. Well done.
Played this one when it was a free flash game on Newgrounds, and loved it. That is all...
And Persona 4 Golden exceeds all of the Persona games before it, especially Persona 3 and its sequels which were thought to be the best out of the entire series. I knew I wasn't going to enjoy playing as Persona 3's MC, but still dying to play the game I picked up Persona 3 Portable instead, dying to play someone my own gender for once. Despite how things tended to get tedious and I disliked the majority of my social links, I loved the game. (--SPOILER--) Sadly, the majority of the love that I had for P3P was crushed after I accidently stumbled upon a spoiler saying that at the end of the game your character dies. Unwilling to see all the hours I invested into the game go to waste, I popped the game out and sat it in it's case.
About a month or so later I came across Persona 3 FES(For Everyone's Souls). Interested, I started to dig around for more information. I read a review, (I was in Jan. In P3P and pretty much knew what was going to go down so why not?),hoping maybe that you could change the MC's fate, or maybe that a for satisfying ending was in store. What I found was even worse than the original game. Not only did the MC still die, but the game warped the plot into pretty this: the characters could not sufficiently cope with your death. Apparentlly everyone has different ideas on what they should do, such as Mitsuru and Yukari want to return to the past before they met the MC, Junpei and Koromaru want to move on naturally,ect; and Aigis pretty much is willing to do anything to bring you back, and with the introduction of a new character who just happens to be Aigis' sister, Metis, actually tries to do so. This and that happens and before you know it, Aigis and Metis are at everyone's throats in an attempt to make Aigis' hope to bring MC back a reality. Once everyone is bloody and battered the plot moves on and everyone discovers why your character was supposed to die, The ending is something like everyone learns to cope with your death and everyone moves on and lives a happy life. This sequel sounded disappointing to say in the least. It's pretty much a huge middle finger to the player. Though an overall good game the ending was what ruined the experience for me. The game was depressing enough, did we need .a sad ending too?
Anyway, after all the bitchslaps Persona 3 gave me I was extremely hesitant about giving Persona 4 a whirl. I decided not to play and start playing something else when I caught wind of Persona 4 Golden. P4G looked amazing by the trailers so I mustered up the cash and bought a PSVita and the game, drunk by the intoxicating charm it was giving off. Honestly, the main reason I bought it was because it looked much happier than the games before it. I'm currently playing the game and I have to say I'm in love with it. The battle system is improved, the art is a huge improvement, the music is amazing, the bosses are much more creative, I have yet to meet as social link I dislike and the new events and story kicks the previousesn the series before its ass!!
Persona3 was a very inique game. If you are a linear player(ffXIII) then it is not for you. The combat system is a great mix of old and new. It adds a few tweeks but keeps the original turn based idea.Not controlling teammates makes the battles thhat much more interesting and if you take the time to choose a strategy its not soo bad. The personas are amazing, hands down. I find that P3 had a darker and more adult themed gameplay compared to p4.
I actually only enjoyed one thing about p4.....chie. Now i'm sayng all this being a huge rpg fan. Ive played and beaten every ff, most dq, pokemon, legend of dragoon, the mana series, so on and so forth.But one last thing I must say is......if you cant complete a game due to your short attention spand then dont write a review... this game is not slow or boring unless you make it out to be. try simcity..thats slow. and if yo wanna play BAD rpgs try out Beyond the Beyond
Since I've read all your comments, I've decided also to add my own comment. I'll also be taking note of the other ideas explained by other people.
Ok, first things first, peace to you all, It's just fun to debate with everyone haha.
now, guyz, please don't compare P3 with P4, it's obvious that P4 is superior since it is its successor. in other words, P4 is the improved P3. So cut with the comparison ok, it makes me sick. its like brother and sister kissing one another. its hot though haha
Some may really hate P3 simply because of Tartarus which I also hate but it can be pretty rewarding when yo overcome it, this just shows that you are very patient and may as well have the gamer's sprirt haha...and if you don't like to grind, use some cheats so that you can skip the fighting part and just enjoy the social links and storyline, that way you'll like the game. (cheats are available in its psp release)
Also, everyone can get really bored if you just kept grinding your character for about 5 hrs straight. So to avoid boredom, try to rest or do other things for awhile so that your love for the game will refill. I do that when I was just a kid wherein I would grind for many hours afterschool and continue to story on weekends. as we always say, keep it in moderation.
Regarding battle systems, most old and some new games have repetive battle systems. It would be hardwork if the game would switch to turnbase then to cardgame and then to tactics but it wud be fun.
Especially nowadays, the popular games today are all about shooting or killing things with minimal story and value worth (DOTA, COD and some hack and slash).
Now for the story, P3 has one of the best story IF you finish it...proceeding with the story can be quite tiresome since it will take some time to continue but that is how it is, use that time to grind. the story is also deep and very dark, those people who don't like dark things will have a bad time.
all games are not perfect. The best game for ME would be like combining our LIFE's ways in Earth with ADVENTURES mostly found in RPG's. do you agree? maybe not
the game can get pretty rough if you jut kept leveling your characters. Level is not the only one to be observed, try exploring other personas, improving your social links to get powerful personas and being careful in battles(there's always an escape option you know).
Also, the plot of the game is set in our time which most likely prohibits any world roaming and searching, so it's obvious that will stick to the same location. Its not like we can go to Europe then to Asia and then to America just to change scenery. And another thing, this is a GAME, some of its features or story or logic will have some flaws that concerns how i world really works. so limit the comparison of our world nature with the game nature, its pretty much different.
Last but not the least, there are SOME who don't like it but there are MANY, as in MANY who like it. This is not my opinion, in fact, it recieves plenty of awards from RPG of the year to the RPG of the DECADE!!!...see wikepedia for details, and yes its legit.
So even if you don't like it, sorry for you since your views are really different from the views of the MANY GAMERS PLAYING GAMES!..
comments, good or bad will be received with delightness :D haha
True story.
Based on your review, all you rant about why you hate persona is because of the way it challenges players. I believe that that's what makes the game more enjoyable. But well, i guess your not in for any challenge.
You're seriously gonna discount the entire article just because you have a different opinion as to what constitutes good animation? Really?
Geez, glad I'm not that close-minded.
That's the whole point of playing an RPG to get stronger than how you were at the beginning. Besides, its one of those games that is visually appealing but also makes you conscious of how you spend your day. There's a lot of things you can get accomplished while you're not in tartarus that could help you in tartarus and if you keep up with your s.links you will be able to create pretty good personas. The best way is just to get to the mini boss and grind one whole night, the more you can accomplish in tartarus in one night is potential time to level up your statuses and s. links at night.
I think this game was just a little too much for you
One of us. One of us!
This games is amazing, plain and simple.
It's well inscribed in japanese culture too, the 4th floor missing is something you'll see in several hotels in japan too.
One of the pronunciations for 4 is indeed "Shi" which is also the pronunciation for the character "death".
SMT games are said amongst the true "RPG and JRPG" fans to be one of the hardest, challenging, and deeply story oriented rpgs out there. Atlus doesn’t play around when it comes to the RPG genre, it’s not for "softy's" who lose interest in the game because it’s too difficult, it’s for the hardcore and you have to respect that. They are plenty of easy, pick up and play, JRPG's out there but Persona 3 is not one of them. That’s why this game has such an underground feel too it, ITS NOT FOR EVERYONE it’s for the patient gamer who doesn't mind getting his ass kicked a couple of times before they win. This is the problems with games today, no challenge.....Everyone wants it easy and if it not easy it sucks. I am from a time when gaming kicked your ass on a daily basis and you got your ass back up because you wanted to win that much more for them doing it. I’m not trying to be an asshole but I am being honest when I say this game is not for chumps and for the truly dedicated who want to experience a truly tough but rewarding experience in their video games. I love the Persona Series for obvious reasons. Great story, characters, pacing, fun battle system, monster collecting and customization, and so on. This game has it all and if memory serves me right this game was the 2007 RPG of the Year. I don’t know Greg it seems your opinion of the game is a little to bias and probably only a handful of people would agree with this silly opinion concocted out of ignorance.
I expect them to follow the rules they set up.
Great information and opinions here,would agree with the others that batman was a real good game but as far as other games listed on here,skyrim is by far the most in depth and is way more involved in almost every aspect than 90% of games available today.
and since when did people only play games for an hour? yes the beginning is slow but are we really reviewing a game based off of one hour of gameplay? there is so much wrong with that concept, I can't even believe people haven't mentioned how ridiculous it is. Play the damn game, get into it, it gets better. finish it and THEN, maybe you can give it a review?
so hilarious how reviews have become about the first hour of gameplay. final fantasy 7's first 5 hours are boring as hell, stuck in midgar, it's when you get out and begin to see the complexities of the characters and stories that it became such a great game and the same goes for star ocean or any other great RPGs for that matter.
I do agree with what you have to say about the first hour, but damn man, play the game!!! HOW CAN YOU REVIEW A GAME AND GIVE IT A SCORE BASED OFF OF 60 MINUTES !!!???? lol this is kind of absurd.
Gna hook her up and play her tomorrow 8) StneCldKilla ;)